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trey
05-05-2008, 08:19 PM
Im in the market for a CAT-5/6 cable tester/certifier that can print out the results, and also a good label maker. SkyWalker doesnt carry these items. ANybody know where I can get these items for a decent price?

satman101
05-05-2008, 10:04 PM
you ain't gonna get em cheap..... plan on a minimum of 1k for a good one

SimpleSimon
05-05-2008, 10:45 PM
Hmm. Label makers are plentiful and cheap - I've been using the Brother handhelds lately. Like $30 give or take.

As for a cable "OK printer", I wonder if some laptop software might be useful. I'm thinking of a loopback plug for one end, a USB Ethernet adapter for the laptop along with it's built-in one.

Then some software that would make the laptop "talk to itself".

Thoughts people?

vegassatellite
05-06-2008, 12:30 AM
Hmm. Label makers are plentiful and cheap - I've been using the Brother handhelds lately. Like $30 give or take.

As for a cable "OK printer", I wonder if some laptop software might be useful. I'm thinking of a loopback plug for one end, a USB Ethernet adapter for the laptop along with it's built-in one.

Then some software that would make the laptop "talk to itself".

Thoughts people?


Couldn't you just ping the IP for the other connection after hooking up the wire and then just do a print screen.

Hnetguru
05-06-2008, 06:43 AM
What you are looking for is a Pentascanner (may have that spelling wrong). Back in the day when I pulled a lot of Cat V we would have to certify each line and submit those results back to our customer. The results were saved on the pentascanner saved to a disk, and the disk mailed to the customer. I would check Anixter or Graybar, but as noted above they are not cheap.

Hnetguru
05-06-2008, 06:55 AM
What you are looking for is a Pentascanner (may have that spelling wrong). Back in the day when I pulled a lot of Cat V we would have to certify each line and submit those results back to our customer. The results were saved on the pentascanner saved to a disk, and the disk mailed to the customer. I would check Anixter or Graybar, but as noted above they are not cheap.

Here is a link to one on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fluke-Microtest-PentaScanner-Plus-w-Super-Injector_W0QQitemZ350055625907QQihZ022QQcategoryZ9 7139QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

May have to cut and paste into your browser.

Hnetguru
05-06-2008, 06:56 AM
Here is a link to one on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Fluke-Microtest-PentaScanner-Plus-w-Super-Injector_W0QQitemZ350055625907QQihZ022QQcategoryZ9 7139QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

May have to cut and paste into your browser.

A Rhino Label Maker can be purchased from Perfect-10.

CableSux
05-06-2008, 07:59 AM
I have no personal experience with cable certifiers, but I did find a site that seems to list all of them on the market. I didn't see any with a built-in printer. At least this site might help you find what you're looking for.

http://www.aaatesters.com/Products-LAN_Cable_Certifiers.html

satman101
05-06-2008, 08:43 AM
NONE of these have built in printers....the testers save all of the tests in memory and then you download them to your computer in excel format and print out the results... this has NOTHING to do with labeling the wires.

SkyV
05-06-2008, 10:03 AM
Fluke schould have what you looking for. http://www.flukenetworks.com/fnet/en-us/

garys
05-06-2008, 02:18 PM
Check out www.milestek.com.

satman101
05-06-2008, 07:54 PM
there are also wirescopes made by agilent..... look to spend 2 to 6 k for them...

SimpleSimon
05-06-2008, 10:46 PM
Couldn't you just ping the IP for the other connection after hooking up the wire and then just do a print screen.


No - at this stage of the game you usually don't have network hardware installed. Also, Ethernet only uses half the pairs in a Cat5.

I was thinking of a loopback plug for the "far" end that connected the orange pair to blue, and the green to brown.

Then at the "near" end, a "Y" plug that would send the grenn and brown to the second Ethernet adapter, thereby giving you a test of all pairs.

Of course, the IP addresses for BOTH adapters would have to be manually set, and to different ones.

My only question is whether Windows would short-circuit the path because it would "see" that the other IP was really itself. If so, you'd have to have a network device at the far end like a router (not a hub or switch) so that there's an "extra" IP address involved. At that point, it likely becomes more trouble than it's worth.

Hmmm. OR MAYBE ... just use a hub with status lights in place of the laptop. If you get both LEDs, you at least have continuity and no shorts.

trey
05-07-2008, 02:54 AM
Thanks for the help. You guys are putting me in the right direction.

I know the two devices have nothing to do with one another. BUt they are the 2 items I need to add`to my tool list.

satman101
05-07-2008, 07:05 AM
if you are only looking for continuity then look an a Siemon STM-8 they are onlu about $100 but it WILL NOT certify the cable.

CableSux
05-07-2008, 07:34 AM
If he's required by whomever is paying him to "certify" cables, then he needs a cable certifier, not a continuity test, not a simple ping test. I did work for a guy that was contracted to run cat5 in an office building. He had to certify the cables after we installed them. The certifier didn't just test the continuity, it also checked for speed capability and noise. Noise could come from crossing high voltage lines and other comm lines (things to consider when running cat5 as it's not shielded).

scooterz56
05-07-2008, 04:10 PM
Also, if you are required to Certify the cabling, you have to be certified for the cable you are testing. A good Cat-5/6 training and certification class will run you around $1500 to 3k depending on what all they cover. I took my classes back in 96 and they ran $3200.00 for both a Cat-5 and Fiber certs.

Expect to pay 3 to 5K for a good tester, my Wirescope 155 cost $4500.00 in 96 with all atachments and the Fiber kit.

Back then you could get $150 a drop for Cat-5 runs, now days some people around here will do a drop for $35, thats why we got out.

SimpleSimon
05-07-2008, 08:24 PM
Oh BTW, simple pairs checking can be done with a low-cost unit (I've got one), so ignore the ethernet hub comment.

And of course, NEITHER one satisfies the printing requirement - hey don't kill me - I was tired. :D

satman101
05-07-2008, 10:35 PM
you can get a Wirescope 155 for under $1k on ebay now.... but it will only test to 155 mhz... cat 5e and cat 6 require 350 mhz testers... scooterz56, you feel like parting with that 155? mine is dead now and i'm looking for a replacement

scooterz56
05-08-2008, 01:20 AM
Jack is your master or remote dead? My master died last fall and they no longer service the 155's. <sad144>

satman101
05-08-2008, 06:11 AM
same here... master died