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dragon002
06-29-2007, 10:23 AM
High-def junkies are waiting for DIRECTV to expand its HD lineup, but none knew how that was going to affect their bills. Now they know: DIRECTV said it will not raise retail prices after the company blows up its HD offering. DIRECTV had previously said it wouldn't raise its HD programming rates, but this week the company included retail satellite receivers in the mix.

Scott Greczkowski
06-29-2007, 01:42 PM
DirecTV said this about 2 months ago, where have you been? :)

BTW DirecTV's MPEG4 quality kicks ass. I am very impressed with it. Too bad their MPEG2 HD looks like crap.

But soon that won't be an issue.

dragon002
06-29-2007, 02:20 PM
I see you have seen the good side of the force!!! LOL

BTW....how did you do on the au-9 install??

dishnorth
06-29-2007, 05:18 PM
DirecTV said this about 2 months ago, where have you been? :)

BTW DirecTV's MPEG4 quality kicks ass. I am very impressed with it. Too bad their MPEG2 HD looks like crap.

But soon that won't be an issue.

We have 2 Pioneer 42" plasma's with the exact same setttings. One is hooked to a Dish Network 622, and the other is hooked to a HR20

Picture quality on any HDTV channel currently available on DirecTV sucks in direct comparison to Dish.

And we have swapped cables and tv's and get the same result

I back this up with a piece of marketing that we received from DTV recently. It shows that both the 622 and the HR20 have 320 gb capacity hard drives. Assuming that they are using the same amount of space for dish on demand crap (since the SD recording times are identical on both boxes), DTV must be compressing thier HD signal more.

Dish Network 622 has 30 hours of HD recording capacity, while DTV's HR20 has 50. (and both claim 200 hours SD capacity).

this accounts for the signal quality difference when placed in a side by side comparison (well actually top to bottom) :D

dragon002
06-29-2007, 07:27 PM
Well that isnt what THREE surveys say!

One or two more comments.......

1. Scott never was a lover of Directv, hes a Dish Notwork guy at heart.....for him to say that is like Hillary voting for Fred Thompson and advertising it!

2 IF the 622 looks better, It would be the FIRST time an Echojunk product beat a similar Directv product. I guess the saying is correct....Even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then.

ROMAC
06-29-2007, 07:42 PM
There should be no price increase since they have raped us for years on a very limited HD line up .

vegassatellite
06-29-2007, 09:56 PM
We have 2 Pioneer 42" plasma's with the exact same setttings. One is hooked to a Dish Network 622, and the other is hooked to a HR20

Picture quality on any HDTV channel currently available on DirecTV sucks in direct comparison to Dish.

And we have swapped cables and tv's and get the same result

I back this up with a piece of marketing that we received from DTV recently. It shows that both the 622 and the HR20 have 320 gb capacity hard drives. Assuming that they are using the same amount of space for dish on demand crap (since the SD recording times are identical on both boxes), DTV must be compressing thier HD signal more.

Dish Network 622 has 30 hours of HD recording capacity, while DTV's HR20 has 50. (and both claim 200 hours SD capacity).

this accounts for the signal quality difference when placed in a side by side comparison (well actually top to bottom) :D

This fact is also supported by the current lawsuit against DirecTV claiming their HD is too over-compressed to be considered true HD and the lawsuit therefore alleges that DirecTV lies when it advertises those channels to be HD.

Google "Cohen v. Directv"

dragon002
06-30-2007, 08:51 AM
So where do you see the lawsuit going??

dragon002
06-30-2007, 09:21 AM
This fact is also supported by the current lawsuit against DirecTV claiming their HD is too over-compressed to be considered true HD and the lawsuit therefore alleges that DirecTV lies when it advertises those channels to be HD.

Google "Cohen v. Directv"

So here is how they rank.

MPEG2 HD

Dish Network 8 out of 10
DirecTV 6 out of 10
AT&T UVERSE (All HD channels are MPEG4)

MPEG4 Quality
(Now because Dish does not have any MPEG4 channels which I get off of DirecTV this ranking comes from overall MPEG4 perfomance. I do understand that the PQ varies by area as other areas may be using older MPEG4 encoders, I am basing my findings on what I am seeing in Hartford, CT)

DirecTV 9.5 out of 10
Dish Network 8 out of 10
AT&T UVERSE 4.5 out of 10

While the MPEG4 PQ on Dish was very good, the DirecTV MPEG4 seemed to be more colorfull, lifelike and more detailed. I was truely blown away by the PQ of DirecTV's MPEG4 channels, and if all of the new channels look like this DirecTV could indeed be the true HD leader.:)

dishnorth
06-30-2007, 01:27 PM
which channels on DTV are currently broadcast in MPEG 4?

Timinator
06-30-2007, 04:00 PM
There should be no price increase since they have raped us for years on a very limited HD line up .

Really lol!

dragon002
06-30-2007, 04:25 PM
which channels on DTV are currently broadcast in MPEG 4?


as of right now, the Locals and the NFL ticket are in mpeg-4, I dont know if there are more.

Timinator
06-30-2007, 10:47 PM
as of right now, the Locals and the NFL ticket are in mpeg-4, I dont know if there are more.

The big money channels, it makes sense.

Scott Greczkowski
06-30-2007, 11:30 PM
The MPEG4 channels I get from DirecTV are my Hartford locals.

They actually look as good as they do via OTA!

Their MPEG2 HD channels look like crap and they deserved to get sued over them.

However I feel that with MPEG4 in the future that we may soon stop complaigning about the quality of their HD.

Todd Humphrey
07-02-2007, 10:02 AM
which channels on DTV are currently broadcast in MPEG 4?

Locals

dragon002
07-02-2007, 11:20 AM
Todd,

I do believe the NFL Ticket is MPEG-4

Scott Greczkowski
07-02-2007, 02:55 PM
Nope NFL will again be in MPEG2 this year (but this will be the last year in MPEG2)

SimpleSimon
07-04-2007, 05:56 PM
I wouldn't gett too attached to the MPEG-4 improvements.

I suspect they have NOT added more HD channels to a given transponder, so the superior compression for a given bandwidth yields a better quality.

As soon as they stuff another channel or two on a transponder, the quality will fall back down. Sad. :cool: